F1 2009

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I'm sure there are one or two F1 fans on the forum. If not it'll just be me and Dunk!

With Button rising to glory this season and Hamilton not doing too well (to put it nicely!), it's certainly a change from the past two seasons!

Ferrari have now picked up their toys and have signed up for next season - I just hope McLaren step up the game and build a competitive car as we could do with a British 1, 2.

Discuss...

Mike

Admin Location : Abu Dhabi

I think the 12th June is the next interesting date, when the FIA will announce who is in and who is out of next seasons competition.

Given that the FOTA 9 have entered but with conditions, they could if they wanted to exclude them, but would be left with 4 new teams and Williams, and Bernie and his F1 circus arent that daft.

This weekends Grand prix should prove interesting. Ferrari are usually strong in Turkey and I think Red Bull will be back on the pace again. Also expect toyota to pick up after the recent 2 drubbings around relatively slow tracks.

Still think Brawns will be at the head of the field, but KERS could well come into play this weekend for some of the other teams.

Subject: Re: F1 2009 2009-06-01, 16:15

Im still a fan, its great to see the paddock turned on its head this year with Brawns performance. Ive heard Mclaren will be no where as certain key parts don't work with this chassis. The sooner they realise this season is over and start to concentrate on next year the better. As for next year, I honestly believe that every team will be on the grid in oz next year.

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I know its still early in the season but I can't really see anyone catching Button. Kimi showed in Monaco that Ferrari are back somewhere near their pace last year but still behind the Brawns. I think its good to see a different pecking order this year. I am a fan of Lewis and so I'm not too happy seeing him near the back most of the time but at the same time I think that this season will teach him some valuable skills on how to race a car that isn't the fastest.

Subject: Re: F1 2009 2009-06-02, 01:49

Its interesting to see the way things have changed in the paddock.

i was at a do a couple of weeks ago, Hamilton waltzed in with 5 bodyguards and proceeded to do the rapper gangster thing, whilst Jenson turned up with a couple of mates and quietly got on with it, and was polite and normal, just as he used to be before the playboy thing took hold on him.

I think it shows who is focused at the moment, and clearly Ross Brawn is the genius behind the success of Jenson, he seems to have got his self belief and focus back.

I really can't see anyone touching Jenson this year he is so motivated and poor old Rubens is really struggling with Jensons pace.

We always knew that the problem with the KERS systems would be the variability under braking due to the lack of time on the overrun. It's only a matter of time before we have the brake by wire systems coming out to counter the problems.

Geoff

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JB seems so relaxed and chilled out, nothing is getting to him - lets hope it continues as the season progresses.

Another new team has applied for one of the 3 new spots available for 2010

Austrian company Superfund, headed by ex F1 driver Alex Wurz have put their name forward to enter the fray next year.

Superfund now join Prodrive, Campos, Team US F1 and Lola trying to make it to the 2010 grid.

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it would be nice to see lola on the grid as it will bring more jobs out in this area

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Ive seen one or two reports online that Brabham and March may have submitted entries for next years event.

Along with Lola, Superfund, Litespeed, USF1, campos and prodrive this potentially makes 8 new teams wanting to get involved.

With only 3 spaces available, theres going to be alot of disappointment.

However, is it possible that Bernie and the FIA could kick the FOTA 9 into touch and go with these new 8 teams and Williams?

Surely they wouldnt want to lose the big names, but with so much interest, Bernie could pull yet another surprise out of the bag!

Dunk

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Any Button fans, he should be at RIAT this year I believe!

Cheers,

Location : stamford

i am a massive fan of F1 but it is really doing my head in that each year the rules change. this year they have a good set up on the rules i think and its good that the teams that havent done so well in the past are now on top but i think it will all change next year because once again the rules will change.

Subject: Re: F1 2009 2009-06-03, 17:49

I never knew it was as many as 8 teams so had a look around to find out more info. Supposedly iSport International, Barwa Addax, Super Nova Racing, DAMS, Dallara and two other unnamed teams may be interested in lodging entries. So possibly 15 teams!
But Renault may not enter the 2010 season due to falling car sales, needing to cut back on their money. Would this allow for an extra team to join?
If Red Bull can build on their success so far this season I hope Vettel can do really well next year.

Subject: Re: F1 2009 2009-06-04, 02:43

rj79 wrote:: Any Button fans, he should be at RIAT this year I believe!

Cheers,

He was there in 2007 too.Mind you Margaret Thatcher was also spotted looking round a RAF Typhoon Crying

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Nice to see so many F1 fans on FC.

F1 is going to be well over subscribed. I wouldnt put it past Bernie to go wih the new teams, he really is spiteful. However the pulling power of the big teams and amount of sponsoship they bring in should poo poo those thoughts.

Theres been talk of Renault or Toyota leaving the sport. Toyota came out yesterday saying as long as theres no budget constraint for 2010 they will commit to the sport until 2012. Nothing from Renault as yet.

I wish they would sort it out once and for all, it detracts from the great racing we have seen this year. The current rules are working, so leave them be, and let the fans enjoy the closest racing weve seen for years.

Subject: Re: F1 2009 2009-06-04, 04:58

word on the streets ( well in the office) yesterday was that we may be seeing the return of F2 as a support series and feeder for F1, to replace F3000.

just a rumour but lots of teams looking for a cheap high prestige series and would give the FIA a way out of the mess.

Geoff

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Seems Max Mosley hasnt missed the fact that F1 is oversubscribed for 2010, telling the FOTA 9 to go and start their own series if they dont want to play by his rules.

Gonna get messy very shortly, and its going to be interesting to see how many teams have the balls to stick it out, or jump from the FOTA ship. Bernie has long said it would be easy to break FOTA, and that teams will look after number one when push comes to shove.

Autosport Link

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Back to racing....Turkish Grand prix free practice under way.

Results from first practice:

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:28.952 24
2 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.263 0.311 23
3 9 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:29.271 0.319 26
4 15 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:29.337 0.385 18
5 3 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:29.342 0.390 22
6 17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:29.371 0.419 21
7 4 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:29.398 0.446 25
8 7 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:29.422 0.470 24
9 23 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:29.525 0.573 25
10 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.590 0.638 20
11 22 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:29.747 0.795 20
12 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:29.864 0.912 22
13 10 Timo Glock Toyota 1:29.934 0.982 26
14 8 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:30.132 1.180 18
15 14 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:30.176 1.224 22
16 5 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:30.645 1.693 22
17 6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:30.689 1.737 20
18 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:30.729 1.777 22
19 11 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:30.838 1.886 24
20 12 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:30.944 1.992 26

Second practice just under way, live on the web from the bbc:

BBC F1 Practice live

Dunk

Admin Location : Abu Dhabi

Second practice is over, with the main players way off the pace, should be an interesting qualifying tomorrow.

1 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.841 37
2 7 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:28.847 0.006 35
3 5 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:29.056 0.215 35
4 17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:29.091 0.250 37
5 15 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:29.202 0.361 4
6 9 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:29.207 0.366 41
7 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:29.257 0.416 40
8 23 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:29.305 0.464 35
9 14 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:29.383 0.542 39
10 8 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:29.401 0.560 38
11 3 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:29.416 0.575 38
12 22 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:29.430 0.589 33
13 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.435 0.594 31
14 10 Timo Glock Toyota 1:29.518 0.677 40
15 4 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:29.520 0.679 33
16 6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:29.550 0.709 40
17 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:30.081 1.240 33
18 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:30.091 1.250 38
19 11 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:30.295 1.454 39
20 12 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:30.629 1.788 37

Dunk

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Well done to Kovalainen! Lets hope he can do that tomorrow. I shall be watching, maybe Hamilton can do well too!

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does anybody know of the safety car or f1 team frequencies for silverstone this year ??

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No idea matey.

Great race from Jenson again.

I love the way Rubens retired with gearbox problems, just as he is about to be lapped by Jenson..... Whistle

Cracking race from the Redbulls, Jenson appears to be in a class of his own. Brilliant!

Subject: Re: F1 2009 2009-06-08, 16:29

Was gutted when Vettel messed up and couldn't pass Button before his second stop. Still a good race for Red Bull though.
Although I'm happy for Jenson that he's leading the world championship, dare I say it, I'm starting to get a little bored of his dominance, can we have Vettel win the next few races to make things even more interesting please!

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Brawn GP have finally got some Merchandise for sale, and its not bad either, if a little pricey!

Brawn GP Merchandise

Dunk

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F1 gear is always overpriced Dunk. Baffles me? When not make it more affordable and then sell more, making a profit that way?

That Brawn site is currently down though fellas, all I'm getting is - xmicrosite error...

I'll try later.

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rj79 wrote:: Any Button fans, he should be at RIAT this year I believe!

Cheers,

Any more info on this? Not heard this anywhere else?

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Cant say ive seen any mention of Jenson at RIAT attending this year - yet.

It is a blank weekend for F1 on RIAT weekend, so its possible.