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bolty
Location : Lincolnshire
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Subject: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-20, 03:44 |
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BBC News reporting a RAF Chinook has crashed in Afghanistan crew ok
Last edited by Dunk on 2009-08-20, 05:04; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : edited title)
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bolty
Location : Lincolnshire
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-20, 04:28 |
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Edit: they have changed the story now
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- Crew unhurt in Chinook emergency
The British crew escaped injury in Afghanistan after a Chinook helicopter was forced to make an emergency landing, the Ministry of Defence says.
The crew managed to safely evacuate the helicopter after an engine fire forced the landing in Helmand on Wednesday.
The MoD said it was not ruling out enemy fire as a possible cause for the emergency landing.
The aircraft was deliberately destroyed by a coalition airstrike to keep it out of enemy hands.
The crew were picked up by another Chinook immediately after the incident.
The Ministry of Defence said that in the short term other UK aircraft in the region, and those operated by Nato partners, would be able to cover the "helicopter lift requirement".
"In the medium term, the UK's joint helicopter command is already planning the replacement of this airframe," it said.
info from the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8211552.stm
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hawks922
Location : Birmingham, West Midland (Geordie Born & Bred)
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-20, 04:48 |
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Happy that all crew are safe. Gonna mess up the MOD no claim bonus on the insurance hope they have fully comp lol
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Dunk
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-20, 05:07 |
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Hope its not the war hero 'BN' ZA718 - not sure if its out there though.
Glad the crew were safely extracted, not the best place to park your Chinook!
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daffy duck
Location : NEAR A.A.C/R.A.F ALDERGROVE
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-20, 06:46 |
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good that the crew are all right the pilot must have been good to land it safely but what about the chinook though
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Will Smith
Location : Portsmouth , UK
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-20, 07:49 |
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- daffy duck wrote:
- good that the crew are all right the pilot must have been good to land it safely but what about the chinook though
The aircraft was deliberately destroyed by a coalition airstrike to keep it out of enemy hands.
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dubmasteruk
Location : Shawbury Airfield Boundary - Half a mile
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-20, 08:07 |
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According to http://www.bmal.org.uk/chinook.htm the following are deployed ZA673/AC ZA674 ZA682/AJ ZA684/AL ZA713/AU ZA718/BN ZA720 ZH891/HF
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bolty
Location : Lincolnshire
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-20, 08:42 |
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A little bit more info from the MOD website
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A British helicopter crew has escaped without injury after their Chinook was forced to make an emergency landing in Helmand province late last night following an engine fire.
The incident happened after two helicopters dropped off cargo and passengers a few miles north of Sangin.
Shortly after take-off the four-strong crew of one Chinook saw cockpit indications of an engine fire during take-off.
The pilots skilfully continued to manoeuvre the helicopter about 1km away from the danger zone to safely make an emergency landing.
All four crew onboard managed to evacuate the aircraft safely. They were recovered by the second helicopter which took them out of the area.
The helicopter was later deliberately destroyed by a coalition airstrike to deny it to enemy forces.
Lieutenant Colonel Nick Richardson said:
"It is a measure of the bravery and skill of the pilots that, operating under enemy fire, they were able to complete their task and calmly move to safety.
"Their cool under pressure has ensured that their lives were saved and minimal damage was caused. Despite the loss of one aircraft, the brave crew have thwarted insurgents' attempts to destabilise the elections with a shocking spectacular loss of British life."
The exact cause of the incident is still under investigation and enemy action has not yet been ruled out. In the very short term other UK aircraft in Regional Command (South) and those operated by our NATO partners will be able to cover the helicopter lift requirement. As part of the routine programme to sustain our Chinook fleet in Afghanistan, an additional Chinook had already arrived in theatre Lets hope it isnt BN
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Blackcat1
Location : Aberdare, South Wales, Southern edge of LFA7
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Subject: Wokka 2009-08-21, 03:26 |
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Glad crew are safe, read this morning that it looks like it was fired upon by insurgents.
Last edited by Dunk on 2009-08-21, 04:15; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : unacceptable term removed.)
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hawks922
Location : Birmingham, West Midland (Geordie Born & Bred)
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-21, 03:48 |
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Updates from the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8213417.stm and they say it took some small arms fire before the fire.
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bolty
Location : Lincolnshire
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-30, 09:41 |
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Just seen on the sky news channel they are saying a another? Chinook has been deliberately destoyed in Afghanistan
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Dunk
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-30, 09:47 |
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Yup, damaged on landing - just what the Heli force needs - 2 less wokkas.
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GOOSE
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-30, 09:52 |
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A British Chinook helicopter has been deliberately destroyed after being badly damaged in Afghanistan, the Ministry of Defence has said. The aircraft suffered what officials have called a "hard landing", while on operations near Sangin, Helmand province, on Sunday morning. More from BBC news here.
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TEEJ
Location : Lincs
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-30, 11:50 |
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- bolty wrote:
- A little bit more info from the MOD website
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A British helicopter crew has escaped without injury after their Chinook was forced to make an emergency landing in Helmand province late last night following an engine fire.
The incident happened after two helicopters dropped off cargo and passengers a few miles north of Sangin.
Shortly after take-off the four-strong crew of one Chinook saw cockpit indications of an engine fire during take-off.
The pilots skilfully continued to manoeuvre the helicopter about 1km away from the danger zone to safely make an emergency landing.
All four crew onboard managed to evacuate the aircraft safely. They were recovered by the second helicopter which took them out of the area.
The helicopter was later deliberately destroyed by a coalition airstrike to deny it to enemy forces.
Lieutenant Colonel Nick Richardson said:
"It is a measure of the bravery and skill of the pilots that, operating under enemy fire, they were able to complete their task and calmly move to safety.
"Their cool under pressure has ensured that their lives were saved and minimal damage was caused. Despite the loss of one aircraft, the brave crew have thwarted insurgents' attempts to destabilise the elections with a shocking spectacular loss of British life."
The exact cause of the incident is still under investigation and enemy action has not yet been ruled out. In the very short term other UK aircraft in Regional Command (South) and those operated by our NATO partners will be able to cover the helicopter lift requirement. As part of the routine programme to sustain our Chinook fleet in Afghanistan, an additional Chinook had already arrived in theatre Lets hope it isnt BN On PPRuNe is was confirmed that it (the first one) wasn't BN.
TJ
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Razor61
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-30, 12:30 |
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This Government (with Brown just out there this weekend) really needs to look at the priority of having more helicopters now and really stop taking the pee with our lads and lasses lives. GET some helicopters on UOR Request now and stop mucking about. Surely Mi17s would be a cheap yet battle proven option but wait, theres a catch. As i have argued before... This bloody Government and MoD have the tendency to mess around with the avionics and airframes before they are required to fly in the UK and even more messing around before they are sent to Afghanistan. Yet the countries where these airframes come from and other countries buying the same hardware seem to feel there is no need to mess with the avionics or software or airframes because they are safe and eligible to fly already (which they are when brand new obviously).
Yet with us messing around with the stuff mentioned above, it then takes a year to two years to get it even flying in the UK let alone out in theatre... If we bought the damn hardware and left it alone like other countries can then we would get things done quicker and CHEAPER.
Did we really need to mess around with the Chinook HC3? I believe the CH-47F etc were perfectly capable and flyable without the crap we decided to do with ours which made them grounded for years on end. And then the MoD have the brilliant idea of downgrading them to HC2 standard and even that has taken longer than expected and they still won't be going to afghanistan in any short time frame.
I can't recall us doing this with our C17s and they appeared in the UK flying rather quickly, as did some vehicles on UOR.
Mr Brown and those of the Labour Government and to those at Abbey Wood, for christ sake get yourselves together and stop messing with our troops lives and get us some bloody helicopters to help our brave soldiers and crews out.
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GreenBat
Location : North Wales
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-08-30, 13:53 |
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Razor, I coundn't agree more! Well said
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vulcanone
Location : London
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-09-01, 09:52 |
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Razor 61
The RAF Chinook HC.3s are not CH-47F standard airframes, they were based on the export models formerly referred to as the CH-47SD or the Boeing Model 414-100, with some features from the US Army MH-47Es incorporated. and the T-55 -714 engine that is now being fitted to the HC.2/2A fleet IIRC.
Source WAPJ 38 CH-47 variants article which I worked on
Hope that helps
Tim S
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bolty
Location : Lincolnshire
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-09-24, 19:47 |
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Bit of an update to this story
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7:49pm UK, Thursday September 24, 2009
Geoff Meade, defence correspondent
A defence minister has confirmed to Sky News that a British helicopter lost in Helmand last month was brought down by the Taliban.
The RAF has confirmed that it was the first time an RAF Chinook has been brought down by enemy fire in 27 years of service.
One of the twin rotor's two engines was knocked out by a shoulder-fired rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) as the aircraft flew low over Kajaki at night on August 19.
With one engine ablaze, and a crewman wounded by shrapnel, the pilots were able to continue flying and landed over a mile away.
They were rescued and the aircraft destroyed on the ground by air strike to prevent it falling into enemy hands.
Equipment minister Quentin Davies said only new, more powerful engines trial-fitted to the downed aircraft allowed it to limp back.
"We had a Chinook attacked, struck by an RPG. The aircraft was able to fly two kilometres out of harm's way only because we'd fitted new engines," he told Sky News.
RPGs, a favourite weapon of the Taliban, are one of the helicopter crews' most feared threats.
"Most missions you'll come under fire. It's happened to me," said Flight Lieutenant Eleanor Lodge, a Chinook pilot with four tours of Afghanistan to her credit.
"With RPGs you don't know you've been targeted until you see the flash of the explosion nearby."
The new power plants are part of a £400m programme to improve the lifting capacity of the Chinook fleet.
The first will not be operational in Afghanistan until 2011
Info from sky news
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Dunk
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-09-25, 01:54 |
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Thanks for the update, interesting stuff.
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Fighterfoto
Location : Area 51
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-09-25, 02:37 |
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There is a contradiction in the Defence Minister's comments me thinks.
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vulcanone
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-09-25, 11:34 |
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Well spotted by Fighterfoto, well thats assuming he spotted the bit I did....
As someone that was at the press conference, Quentin Davis did say that the new engines are already in service (as mentioned regarding the one that has been destroyed), and they had an example on static display, the one he (QD) appeared on tv next to.
TS
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SteveS
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-09-25, 12:30 |
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The passage copied above states that these engines were fitted on 'trial-fitted', so maybe not a contradiction there.
Steve
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vulcanone
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Subject: Re: RAF Chinook destroyed in Afghanistan - crew safe. 2009-09-28, 03:33 |
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The batch of airframes that are operating with the new engines were equipped as part of a UOR which included the ones that were destroyed, the remainder of the fleet are now having them fitted.
Geoff Meade has got his facts slightly wrong, anyhow. Its the cockpits that have yet to change, given that that is not as easy to change as a new uprated engine.
TS
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