Howling Tornado.??

Location : East Lincolnshire Spotter Watch Member : No

A strange thing today...2-15pm there was such a howling noise...bit like a F15 but not quite...and to my surprise a Tornado Gr? appeared from the East heading towards Coningsby in a slight descending turn...making a real raucous howl... that I don't recall hearing before.??..
Heard/seen passing Gunby, E.Lincs.

..any thoughts.??

Clive.

Location : coningsby Spotter Watch Member : No

It is both the recent tornado gr4s with 41sqn ,There is something t shaped like an antenna under the back end near the engines,I think this is making them howl.I have posted a photo of it on my web site in may 2009.

My site is http://milky01.piczo.com

Cheers Kevin.

Subject: Re: Howling Tornado.?? 2009-05-21, 14:57

Bit more info here - FC Forum Thread - and a link to a youtube vid here - YouTube - 30 seconds in.

Location : East Lincolnshire Spotter Watch Member : No

Thank you for the update on this and link to the other thread....it's certainly an interesting sound.!!

How I remember during my school days the Hunters doing low level race track sweeps....howling their way back and fore over the Grammar hall in Spilsby...as I sat doing exams...perhaps more attention should have been paid to the papers..but then I just didn't want to go to this or that Uni...I just wanted to watch aeroplanes....still do Embarassed

Thanks,
Clive..

Subject: Re: Howling Tornado.?? 2009-05-21, 16:56

The Tonkas that flew today were ZA559/049 ZD739 ZA600/065 all flew twice with ZA602/067 overshooting. One of them made the howling noise but memory escapes me as to which one it was Embarassed

Location : Lincolnshire Spotter Watch Member : no

Quote :: It is both the recent tornado gr4s with 41sqn ,There is something t shaped like an antenna under the back end near the engines,I think this is making them howl.I have posted a photo of it on my web site in may 2009.

That antenna is part of the new comms fit that allows the crew to talk to troops on the ground, primarily for Afghanistan.

Neil

Location : stamford

me and my dad was in the garden a couple of weeks ago when we heard a jet so we looked up expecting to see an f15 with the noise and to our suprise we saw a tornado. i had never heard one make a sound like it.

Location : coningsby Spotter Watch Member : No

Thanks for that neil.Has work started on ZJ915 BY to get her back in the air.

Cheers Kevin.

Moderator Location : Between Coventry and Leicester

Sounds intresting. be nice to see a few more with this fit.
does make a nice sound as shown on that youtube link.

Location : Lincolnshire Spotter Watch Member : no

Milky

Yes work has started on 915, they have a few long months ahead.

Vulcan558

This mod has been around for a while, saw the first Jet with it at Warton 2 years ago and quite a few in service jets are now equipped. So if it is the antenna that causes the howl, surprised its not been heard before now.

Neil

Location : Immingham Spotter Watch Member : yes

I have just looked ay Milky photo on the Tonka thats the 2nd one I have seen with upgrade it sounds even better when on full reheat going down the beach on Donna 065/ZD720 from Boscome downs Roll Eyes

Even I thought it was an F15 coming on the Range it just sounded like one Laugh

Terry

Subject: Re: Howling Tornado.?? 2009-05-22, 04:03

ZA559/049 or ZA600/065 at 10.30ish flew over my house making the howling noise. Theres no way its that aerial thing its far too loud Clap

Location : Lincolnshire Spotter Watch Member : no

ZA559 has been flying with the new Terma AIIRCM pod on the LH outboard pylon. The system is packed into an old BOZ-107 pod but it now has some vents on the side which BOZ never had. I wonder if the airflow over the vents at speed is the cause of the howl.

Neil

Subject: Re: Howling Tornado.?? 2009-05-22, 04:39

pic of ZA559 with pod

Location : Kings Lynn, Norfolk Spotter Watch Member : Nope

exleckie wrote:: Milky

Yes work has started on 915, they have a few long months ahead.

Vulcan558

This mod has been around for a while, saw the first Jet with it at Warton 2 years ago and quite a few in service jets are now equipped. So if it is the antenna that causes the howl, surprised its not been heard before now.

Neil

I photographed a jet at Marham about 2 years ago aswell and it had the same antena. No Noise like that though

Location : East Lincolnshire Spotter Watch Member : No

Gr4 howled past this morning...passing just South of Gunby at 10-38am..heading Coningsby...
I had just been telling my work colleague who was just back from holiday about the howling....and right on cue there was the sound demo.. Smile

Sentinel also noted on Coningsby approach... passing Gunby 11-40am

Clive.

Subject: Re: Howling Tornado.?? 2009-05-22, 10:49

GR4 must have flown over mine at 10.37 then lol Smile

Location : coningsby Spotter Watch Member : No

Not the aerial then,Back to the drawing board. Sad

I have put a shot of the TERMA AIIRCM POD on ZA559 showing the vents on my web page.

Location : Bristol Spotter Watch Member : No

I would agree with the airflow over the vents causing the sound...much like the sound of P51s with the guns taken out (make a whistling sound as the air goes through the empty holes....)

.mic

Moderator Location : Between Coventry and Leicester

Hawker Hunter famous blue note is due to gun barrel holes ,
just like blowing over a empty bottle effect .looking at that pod it does have what looks
like a hole and tube like look to it.?

Location : Grimsby

so glad other people have noticed this.i thought i had hit 30 and was starting to go a touch mad Big Grin

its a great sound tho

dave

Location : sheffield Spotter Watch Member : no

was at coningsby yesterday & heard it to!!!

Location : East Lincolnshire Spotter Watch Member : No

I hadn't heard the howl for a few weeks....but then at lunchtime today a gentle howl was noted passing Gunby for Coningsby....and then this afternoon a very loud howling...passing just North of Gunby towards Coningsby..I did look at my watch but had too much work in my head at the time to recall what time it was now Embarassed

...between 4-30 and 5pm though...

Clive.

Location : coningsby Spotter Watch Member : no

GR4 rtb coningsby yesterday near tea time, sounded really different.

Location : Lincs

If the GR4 ever returns to the airshow circuit (Role Demo/Solo) it will be an added attraction. Imagine a GR4 carrying two of those pods and streaking low level down the display line!?

TJ