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zero_gravity
Location : UK
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Subject: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-04, 03:20 |
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Morning all First an apology to the Mods as in the new scheme of things I'm not sure where best to post this and appreciate it may have to be moved to a more appropriate section of the forum.
PP ver 5.4.1 has just been released and incorprates the following new features .
//HFDL shorthand codes are now reset on a change of HF ground station
// Show colours of background and text in the Options..Aircraft View dialog
// Additional File..Report..Setup option to make report file contain flagged aircraft only
// Options..Chart..Options Alert on hex/reg/flt/squawk are now four separate functions
// Options..Chart..Options new option Range rings on various centres sho on charts and outlines
// Options..Chart..Options new option Scale bar on charts and outlines
// New OLE/COM Method GetAltitudeFilters
// Auto Mlat quicker
The time between automatic multilateration fixes has been halved so that even smoother plots can be tracked.
Range rings can be set around a designated a/c to help pick it out in heavy traffic areas
Quick animation here of Magic 53 in a RH pattern UK4 initially Node 1 then moving to orbit the full area shows some of the new features.
https://2img.net/h/oi26.tinypic.com/2u47yut.gif
The reduced auto Mlat time gives smoother curves to a/c in tight patterns. especially if the "Predict" function is turned off in Chart Settings
If you are already running Planeplotter and have a request for a specific new feature by all means post your idea on the Yahoo Planeplotter group. The software is developing all the time and new features added by Bev on a regular basis.
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Flaps
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Location : 478 miles NNW of Skegness.
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-04, 03:26 |
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Hi,I've moved it to the Scanners section,seems to be more appropriate there,hope that's OK with you ?
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zero_gravity
Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-04, 03:36 |
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Thats fine Mike...thanks
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dchislop
Location : Boston, Lincs
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-07, 13:34 |
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I am just getting to grips with Planeplotter as well, not spotted any military traffic yet but its great at showing civy traffic. I'm still on the earlier release but will probably upgrade soon, there is still a lot to learn about the program and at around £30 it's much cheaper than buying a SBS or AirNav box.
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GOOSE
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Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-07, 13:38 |
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Been thinking of upgrading from OpenATC to PlanePlotter as well. Can anyone buy into the military multilateration feature?
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zero_gravity
Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-07, 15:17 |
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Hi Goose.... Yes indeed anyone can register and use Planeplotter , you dont need an SBS1 or Radar Box ...and you get full facilities , including multilateration. Basic cost is 25 Euro for the registration of the software.This will also give you access to the shared data . In addition for 12 Euros a year you can have access to multilateration [ Mlat ] which allows you to locate many of those a/c which do not show up , even on the SBS1...this includes many mil types. The most important part about starting out with PP is to take it step by step , read the help and wizard files and build up the programme to your own particular liking... In addition to the help files there is a never ending stream of advice on the yahoo group. Using PP is a learning curve , but will worth it . In fact a good proportion of users are mil-air enthusiasts.
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GOOSE
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Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-07, 15:28 |
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Definitely tempted. I like to try before I buy though. The idea of paying up front, for a product I may not like, is not attractive. It's not the way things should be done.
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zero_gravity
Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-08, 01:33 |
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>I like to try before I buy though. >The idea of paying up front, for a product I may not like, is not attractive.
There's a misconception here about what you are paying for. Euro 25 is for the registration of the sw and the licence. PP is not just about Mode_s......its a fully functioning ACARS , HFDL , and DF programme. You can try the unregistered version and , if you have your own input source , it will work fine , but you won't get access to the network.
As with many other pieces of sw , PP has most of its facilities fully functioning , but the network aspect needs the licence key.
For those without their own input source , ACARS ,SBS1 then PP provides exceptional value. After all you could spend over 500 quid on a Basestation or radar box only to find you cant locate military Mode-S a/c....as many have done...and been very dissapointed!
Here you have the chance to spend , in total , Euro 37 to use the most advanced tracking programme in the world , with the unique multilateration . Something even the commercial world cannot achieve.
Mutlilateration exists only in Canada and one country in eastern Europe , commercially and cost many millions of $ / euro to put together.
If you want to know more about Mlat , and see just how complex it is go to
http://www.multilateration.com/pioneers/ and watch the video.
....then think about your Euro 37
Finally , dont forget that having registered a copy of PP for Euro 25 , you can then apply for the 21 day FREE trial of Mlat ....so you do get the chance to "try before you buy "
On the PP group we have a number of ATCOs using the sw. They admit that they are amazed by the facility it provides.....
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Dem0n
Location : Hemel Hempstead, UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-08, 19:47 |
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Goose, just to advise you I bought the licence and havent seen a single mil-air in about 2-3 weeks since buying it... Just all Civvy to me?
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zero_gravity
Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-09, 01:00 |
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You obviously dont know what you are doing then Dem0n
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zero_gravity
Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-09, 01:04 |
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Here's just one example of a mil a/c Dem0n "hasn't" seen.... https://2img.net/h/oi26.tinypic.com/2u47yut.gif
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Dem0n
Location : Hemel Hempstead, UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-09, 06:34 |
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- zero_gravity wrote:
- You obviously dont know what you are doing then Dem0n
Yeah, obviously not! Despite asking on the yahoo group only to be ignored.
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GOOSE
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Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-09, 06:42 |
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I'd just like to remind members that healthy debate is good. Differences of opinion will always happen BUT all members are requested to remain courteous when posting. Should posts descend into "sniping" action will be taken.
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Bouncer
Location : Workington Cumbria
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-09, 07:09 |
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Planeplotter/MLAT as been used by me for a while now, and is a excellent addition to this hobby. Tracking RCH traffic to and from Europe is amazing, also using MLAT to see the F15s over Wales amonst other mill stuff is well worth the money. A lot of hard work as gone into the system from Bev,John, Pat and probably others, also its getting updated all the time and getting better and better...its a big thumbs up for me....
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ringo747
Location : Near RAF Aldergrove
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-11, 07:13 |
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Hi,
Just wondering what the mlat coverage is like in the UK? I will be keen on tracking stuff in Scotland/NI and would probably need the mlat service for milair stuff. Can anyone comment on how well this system works for NI traffic? Thanks
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rafvirtual1
Location : Midlands
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-11, 14:32 |
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Big user of PlanePlotter here like mike and for the software and mlat its worth every penny and saves you a few £100 instead of buying an AIR Nav or SBS unit and you get more wider field using the share data as well.
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Bouncer
Location : Workington Cumbria
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-11, 17:12 |
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- ringo747 wrote:
- Hi,
Just wondering what the mlat coverage is like in the UK? I will be keen on tracking stuff in Scotland/NI and would probably need the mlat service for milair stuff. Can anyone comment on how well this system works for NI traffic? Thanks
Scotland/NI traffic is what I am interested in also as my sbs receives good coverage from these areas , the more people that start using the system the better for everyone. There are alot more NI users now and coverage is very good...
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Dem0n
Location : Hemel Hempstead, UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-12, 01:46 |
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To backtrack slightly, I have now had help from another forum on how to track Mil-Air and it now works fine! It is a good tool especially with a scanner when you're hearing the callsign and looking it up on PP.
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jingernut
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Location : Didcot, Oxfordshire
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-12, 02:41 |
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- Dem0n wrote:
- To backtrack slightly, I have now had help from another forum on how to track Mil-Air and it now works fine! It is a good tool especially with a scanner when you're hearing the callsign and looking it up on PP.
Which site was this... might be handy for other people.
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Dem0n
Location : Hemel Hempstead, UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-12, 02:55 |
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- jingernut wrote:
Which site was this... might be handy for other people. http://www.mantma.co.uk/pp_support.html I got all the info I needed off their FAQ.
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zero_gravity
Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-12, 02:57 |
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The only reliable site for information is the Yahoo Planeplotter group. The group is active everyday with help , hints and tips. We have router experts on tap to help solve any problems , and constant email , telephone and Team Viewer support. Incidentally there has been another update in the last couple of days which now incorporates the use of OS mapping.
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dervish
Location : various
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-12, 05:31 |
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- zero_gravity wrote:
- The only reliable site for information is the Yahoo Planeplotter group.
...though Bev specifically recommends the MAN TMA website as a useful resource!
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zero_gravity
Location : UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-12, 05:46 |
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Indeed , but all the important updates and group/individual messages go through the PP yahoo group , so thats the prime source. Only a small portion of PP users are on the ManTma group.
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spadeadam
Location : Macclesfield, Cheshire
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-12, 10:35 |
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Hi all, I have tried downloading and installing PP on a Windows Vista system and tried to follow several 'wizards' on its installation (which seemed to go ok with the exception that it put its files in several different locations on the hard disk instead of one folder), but it seems to need some kind of two letter/digit sharer code.......I thought that you could try PP for 21 days before buying it? or am I missing something (apart from plane plots across my flat screen monitor)
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Will Smith
Location : Portsmouth , UK
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Subject: Re: Planeplotter V 5.4.1 2009-08-12, 10:47 |
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- dchislop wrote:
- I am just getting to grips with Planeplotter as well, not spotted any military traffic yet but its great at showing civy traffic. I'm still on the earlier release but will probably upgrade soon, there is still a lot to learn about the program and at around £30 it's much cheaper than buying a SBS or AirNav box.
You wont see any mill traffic on planeplotter because 98% of Mill aircraft dont transmit ADSB. What you will have to do to see mill aircraft is to Use something called Multilateration. which creates a Fix on those Mill aircraft which arent transmitting ADSB. Cheers
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