First 1435 Flt Typhoon roll out 4-8-09

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ZJ950 was moved from the spray shop into 29Sqn hanger in full 1435 flight marks but uncoded.

Cheers Kevin.

Location : North Yorkshire

Cheers Kevin. Did you get a pic?

Presumably the markings on ZJ950 look a bit like this:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/6/1/0/0576016.jpg

Location : coningsby Spotter Watch Member : No

No missed it by an hour i was in work,I think the next one will be ZK300.

Cheers Kevin.

Location : North Yorkshire

Hope you get another chance to shoot it mate Unsure/Confused

How many aircraft assigned to the flight? 3? 4?

Location : Lincolnshire Spotter Watch Member : no

Quote :: How many aircraft assigned to the flight? 3? 4?

4

Neil

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ZJ949, ZJ950, ZK300 and ZK301 look likely.

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HaveQuick2 wrote:: ZJ949, ZJ950, ZK300 and ZK301 look likely.

Faith,Hope,Desparation and Charity it is then !!

( p.s. any other forum members got the phantastic 'Phamtom Phinale' video ?

was released by Flt. Lt.Mark Manwaring/Bad Manners for a couple of charity's

PHANTASTIC

Subject: Re: First 1435 Flt Typhoon roll out 4-8-09 2009-08-05, 00:51

biglamp wrote:

HaveQuick2 wrote:: ZJ949, ZJ950, ZK300 and ZK301 look likely.

Faith,Hope,Desparation and Charity it is then !!

( p.s. any other forum members got the phantastic 'Phamtom Phinale' video ?

was released by Flt. Lt.Mark Manwaring/Bad Manners for a couple of charity's

PHANTASTIC

I have both episodes..really cracking - had them autographed at the time! Pity we don't possess a VCR now!! Maybe Mark should re-release on DVD? lol Whistle

Location : Cheshire Spotter Watch Member : No

biglamp wrote:

HaveQuick2 wrote:: ZJ949, ZJ950, ZK300 and ZK301 look likely.

Faith,Hope,Desparation and Charity it is then !!

( p.s. any other forum members got the phantastic 'Phamtom Phinale' video ?

was released by Flt. Lt.Mark Manwaring/Bad Manners for a couple of charity's

PHANTASTIC

Yep, got both of them, I've even managed to hook up my old vcr & get them on the pc.....then onto dvd, for safe keeping.

Location : North Yorkshire

HaveQuick2 wrote:: ZJ949, ZJ950, ZK300 and ZK301 look likely.

I wonder what's to become of ZK302 and ZJ944?

Location : coningsby Spotter Watch Member : No

1435 flight aircraft ZJ950,ZK300.ZK301 and ZK302 I think.

Location : North Yorkshire

So if correct, leaves ZJ944 and ZJ949 to be allocated to squadrons perhaps. Also, perhaps
QO-F and QO-J will receive squadron marks...

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6 SQN Perhaps ?

Location : North Yorkshire

Maybe. They've got to get some jets from somewhere, sometime. There are the 3 named plus one or two others maybe (the spares recovery airframes ZJ940 and ZJ948?). I can't see 17 sqn hanging on to six jets so they could give up at least two making 5/6 machines earmarked for 6 sqn. All speculation really - it's not like they're about to become an active flying squadron for a while yet as I understand it. 11 sqn might receive something new. Don't think they've received a jet since the F2 ZJ929 DL (and they lost DK). With squadrons pooling aircraft it probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. As always, we'll see in the fullness of time...

Location : Lincolnshire Spotter Watch Member : no

Quote :: They've got to get some jets from somewhere, sometime

Well there is always new build. T2 consists of 67 aircraft I believe, with only 11 delivered so far still plenty for 6 Sqn.

Location : Peterborough

Here's an interesting thought. We know that 1435 Flt require four aircraft, and that serials are being offered as to which aircraft will being going South. But usually on a long tanker trail more aircraft, say six, are prepared in order to allow the required number, four, to make the journey. One would assum that the planning for tanker and ground support could not be wasted if one of the Typhoons has a ground failure or mid air problem requiring a return to Coningsby.

Apart from painting the new squadron badge are the 1435 Flt aircraft modified in any other way for their long range flight and the air defence role required on the Falklands ?

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HaveQuick2 wrote:: ZJ949, ZJ950, ZK300 and ZK301 look likely.

Havequick are you on 3sqn? Im going to 1435 at the weekend to get stuff ready for the jets arriving.

Location : North Yorkshire

DOUGHNUT wrote:: Here's an interesting thought. We know that 1435 Flt require four aircraft, and that serials are being offered as to which aircraft will being going South. But usually on a long tanker trail more aircraft, say six, are prepared in order to allow the required number, four, to make the journey. One would assum that the planning for tanker and ground support could not be wasted if one of the Typhoons has a ground failure or mid air problem requiring a return to Coningsby.

Apart from painting the new squadron badge are the 1435 Flt aircraft modified in any other way for their long range flight and the air defence role required on the Falklands ?

Neil said that 3 sqn are doing the trail for 1435 flight.

The flight's aircraft are 'modified' in the sense that they are FGR4's without the PIRATE sensor, unlike their squadron counterparts.

Location : n.west Spotter Watch Member : no

seeker33 wrote:

DOUGHNUT wrote:: Here's an interesting thought. We know that 1435 Flt require four aircraft, and that serials are being offered as to which aircraft will being going South. But usually on a long tanker trail more aircraft, say six, are prepared in order to allow the required number, four, to make the journey. One would assum that the planning for tanker and ground support could not be wasted if one of the Typhoons has a ground failure or mid air problem requiring a return to Coningsby.

Apart from painting the new squadron badge are the 1435 Flt aircraft modified in any other way for their long range flight and the air defence role required on the Falklands ?

Neil said that 3 sqn are doing the trail for 1435 flight.

The flight's aircraft are 'modified' in the sense that they have the PIRATE sensor removed.

I think that if you were to look on the recent photos thread you would find 2/3 Typhoons on
their first flights from Warton have not been fitted with PIRATE, Mickey Stix & Repoman would
comfirm this.

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60163tornado wrote:

Quote :: I think that if you were to look on the recent photos thread you would find 2/3 Typhoons on
their first flights from Warton have not been fitted with PIRATE, Mickey Stix & Repoman would
comfirm this.

Very true, simply because there aren't enough to go around. Thats why the Luftwaffe have only just started fitting them to their post R2 jets.

Location : North Yorkshire

60163tornado wrote:

seeker33 wrote:

DOUGHNUT wrote:: Here's an interesting thought. We know that 1435 Flt require four aircraft, and that serials are being offered as to which aircraft will being going South. But usually on a long tanker trail more aircraft, say six, are prepared in order to allow the required number, four, to make the journey. One would assum that the planning for tanker and ground support could not be wasted if one of the Typhoons has a ground failure or mid air problem requiring a return to Coningsby.

Apart from painting the new squadron badge are the 1435 Flt aircraft modified in any other way for their long range flight and the air defence role required on the Falklands ?

Neil said that 3 sqn are doing the trail for 1435 flight.

The flight's aircraft are 'modified' in the sense that they have the PIRATE sensor removed.

I think that if you were to look on the recent photos thread you would find 2/3 Typhoons on
their first flights from Warton have not been fitted with PIRATE, Mickey Stix & Repoman would
comfirm this.

I'm fully aware of this (although the Saudi jets have it), and presumably it's no co-incidence that these recent debutants (eg ZK300, ZK301 etc...) are earmarked for 1435 flight. It seems reasonable to assume that the jets for the flight don't have the PIRATE sensor because they don't need it operationally. I thinks it's also reasonable to suggest that if the aircraft destined for the Falklands required this fit, then 4 existing/operational (and not new) FGR4's would be assigned.

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Seeker33 Wrote:

Quote :: It seems reasonable to assume that the jets for the flight don't have the PIRATE sensor because they don't need it operationally.

Actually no it doesn't, as I stated they simply don't have it because there aren't enough to go around. Nothing to do with the FI. As to the Saudis having them, well money talks.

Location : North Yorkshire

Right, fair enough. It's an availability thing and not a strategic thing then. Maybe I wasn't quite cynical enough! I presumed that if they needed jets with the sensor they'd just take them from the stock they have. Thanks for straightening it out.
Cheers

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milky01 wrote:: 1435 flight aircraft ZJ950,ZK300.ZK301 and ZK302 I think.

I sometimes forget if a certain Typhoon has flown before. Today Thursday 3.9.09 Tarnish 17 flew ZK 302 out on a sortie from Warton it was in its primer paint, Im sure Mickey Stix will be posting a pic tonight
on Recent Photos. Hope this is helpful.

Location : North Yorkshire

Thanks for info. Got to be painted grey before delivery to Coningsby I guess.

Also noticed, from looking at your post on the Warton logs page - 29 sqn's ZJ910 BV almost took to the skies from Warton today after a long stay for upgrade, but aborted take-off with an engine problem.

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